Every W in 2009 in the Herm Edwards column every L under the ‘search’ & ‘check’ “count the days until their firing” watch…

“The more Vermeil players he lost/alienated and the more garbage players he brought in, the worse we got.”

- Herm – the only Head Coach in franchise history to lead KC to the playoffs in his very 1st season – the same team Vermeil couldn’t lead out of it’s own way the year afore- and the same guy couldn’t take KC anywhere but ‘home for the holidays’ four years out of his five here…that Weepy Dick.

Oh, the same thing Herm did in NY- took Al Groh’s playoff absent Jets to the playoffs – 3 years out of his 5 there…that Herm.

Yup…heh heh heh

“Yeah Herm, we’re sure better than we were when you got here. Not only can the man not coach, he can’t count.”

- $4 million from the Chiefs, several more from ESPN…his numerics seem to be working fabulously!

“If I ever come face to face with Herm, I’d refuse to shake his hand.use to shake his hand.”

- Herm doesn’t ever make it down to shanty town, so no worries…

“The new Coach has to clean up his mess, as Mangini did there”

- Mangini: fired by NY.

“and Haley is”

- going to make a mess in KC; ‘check’: fired by KC…check.

The more Vermeil players he lost/alienated and the more garbage players he brought in, the worse we got. Yeah Herm, we’re sure better than we were when you got here. Not only can the man not coach, he can’t count. And whose idea was it to field 20 rookies? He acts like he’s a victim. If I ever come face to face with Herm, I’d refuse to shake his hand. Prior to his run here, Bill Romanowski and PacMan were the only two on that list.

“Hey Rin”

- yes, what is it now needy thee?

“I have a question and I am not trying to be flippant”

- just churlish; regardless, you were unsuccessful…

“Why do call Haley & Pioli “Search and Check?”

- multiples apply:

a) it pleases me
b) it’s apropos
c) Frick & Frack was already taken

“Rin”

- yes, what is it now ‘check’?*

*(Niblick: Another name for a 9 iron. At the time of its use, it characteristically had an shorter face than other clubs and was also concave like a spoon)http://www.golfclevelandohio.com/G2003-lexicon.htm

“I like your optimism.”

- the adulation line forms to the right…take a number.

“You’ve gone from 0-16 to a minimum of 11 wins for the Chiefs next year.”

- under the presumption that you ‘check’ will be relieved of your duties afore game 6; it is very possible as such…

“I’ll take those 11 wins”

- of course you would…you’re batting zero now as will you be aft 5 games regular season 2009…

“you’re”

- Rin Tin Tin, but enough about He…

“predicting”

- is like marriage; you may be right but more often you’re wrong…Rin thought he was wrong once but it was only Jr. who made a mistake.

“I knew you”

- oh, a regular subscriber Rin’s blog-ged dog-ged wit…

“would come around”

- what goes around comes around – keep your rapt attention fixed upon following Rin’s each/e’ery.

“eventually.”

- you might wake up some mornin’, to the sound of something moving past your window in the wind and if you’re quick enough to rise you’ll catch a fleeting glimpse of someone’s fading shadow…

it must be the idiot stamp in this thread.

I like your optimism. You’ve gone from 0-16 to a minimum of 11 wins for the Chiefs next year. I’ll take those 11 wins you’re predicting. I knew you would come around eventually.

In eight years as an NFL coach Edwards took four teams to the playoffs. He is the Jets second all- time winningest playoff coach, and was the first coach in Kansas City to take his team to playoffs in his first year as a coach.

- just like Rin has said many times afore!

heh heh heh

And via Herm’s own quotes -

“I feel like I’ve left each team better than when I started. I’ve helped a lot of players.”

- exactly so!

“We lost seven games by seven points or less last year, Edwards said. “Why? We had no experience. We had to do it with 20 rookies.”

- yes! Great coaching job on your part Herm!

“And we got better. I believe I’ve made it better for the next guy.”

- without question you did Herm! If ‘check’ does not take ‘your’ Chiefs to the playoffs and win at least 12 games, he is an utter failure… he will be.

Dont forget that out of the $25 million in funds the local gov gave the chiefs to bring training camp back home, $10 million goes to the local hosting college while the chiefs keep a cool $15 million. Some use of economic development funds.

Inspite of this cheapness, the team is finally making an improvement from the years of ineptness under Herm and Carl.

Did you know that Herm still lives in Kansas city, and likely will for the next 2yrs? What a failure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGJMYxEJDn8&feature=related

If your referring to me, I am offended that you would mistake my informative, insightful and intelligent post with that of a schizoid, old recluse, that even his name is second fiddle to the original, “Braveheart”.

I wouldn’t give him the sweat off my cods, if he were dieing of thirst! He’s a F’n retard! DO NOT MISTAKE me for him ever again!

Here is a list of teams and the actual amount of money spent over the past five years.

Read it and weep boys, and make sure you’ve got your season tickets, LMAO

Team Dollars, in millions
1. Cowboys $566.89
2. Seahawks $552.42
3. Redskins $547.37
4. Colts $532.77
5. Vikings $526.87
6. Texans $522.23
7. Saints $518.49
8. Steelers $516.69
9. Panthers $516.09
10. Patriots $513.31
11. Raiders $513.21
12. Ravens $507.05
13. Browns $506.43
14. Cardinals $505.30
15. Lions $505.04
16. Jets $502.53
17. Rams $502.08
18. Dolphins $500.56
19. Giants $497.63
20. Eagles $495.75
21. Bears $495.57
22. Falcons $493.07
23. Bengals $491.06
24. 49ers $486.40
25. Chargers $485.46
26. Broncos $485.40
27. Bills $493.71
28. Jaguars $480.06
29. Titans $465.29
30. Packers $457.16
31. Chiefs $451.58
32. Buccaneers $449.00

Just a quick glance at this list tells us that the most successful teams are not the top spenders, but they sure as hell aren’t in the bottom third either, much less, 31st out of 32.

IMO, you should put an * on year 5 for KC, given that with so many rookies, you would expect less money being spent, but NO such excuse for years 1-4.

I suspect that Jr has gotten himself into some serious money problems. Now is it simply a cash flow problem or something more?

Here’s a link to the article.
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/06/26/moneyball-nfl-style/

“I see things are turning toward the wacko side in the postings around here. What a bunch of characters.”

- yes, Rin Tin Tin has (literally) a cast of thousands following Him around on this site – imitating him in name though not (obviously) ability narrative any… in fact, parlance be known as ‘try & deflect attention’ those very same who rail against the brilliant takes Rin ‘are’ in fact the same who use His name to try and sully Him…they fail miserably of course.

Bob G knows ‘exactly’ what is going on here and that Rin remains whilst the wailers continue to wail speaks to whom be legit and who be naught.

It’s going to be a great 2009 of blogging ahead for Rin Tin Tin…enjoy!

Now them where were we? Oh yes, the poor man’s Lechler, Dustin.

“I’m glad Colquitt is healthy again. Every little bit helps.”

- yes, and when your best player on the team is the punter – a step down from whence the TE was your best – “little” be operative two-syllable dance partner “helps.”

“And now….a little tip I’d like to offer up”

- no sorry, Rin never accepts advice from bookies or day traders…only kudos from His faithful Rin Tin Tinners Fan Club!

With quotes like these:

“I feel like I’ve left each team better than when I started. I feel like I’ve helped a lot of players.”

“I believe I’ve made it better for the next guy.”

I think Herm has become delusional. Can he REALLY believe that he left the Chiefs a better team than when he got here? I can only imagine that two people on Earth believe that…Herm and Rin. “Helped a lot of players” do what, exactly? Know what a crappy Head Coach looks like, maybe? And of course he “made it better for the next guy”. Because after winning six games in two years…ANYONE could improve on that. Herm didn’t hold his players accountable…and he doesn’t hold himself accountable, either.

I agree with your assessment 100%, findthedr…what an idiot.

you all should check out this read: http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/6/28/928223/herm-edwards-on-08-chiefs-i-was

Herm Edwards deflects blame for the 2008 season and calls the team “a college team.”

what a complete idiot.

“I see things are turning toward the wacko side in the postings around here. What a bunch of characters.”

Yeah, a “bunch of characters” alright. Mostly courtesy of one person, though. That’s what I think.

Comparing Colquitt to any of those guys really isn’t fair. He’s very early into his career, and has a long way to go. Only time will tell if he’ll be considered one of the all-time greats. My biggest hope is that he doesn’t set some kind of record for “most attempts”…’cause he’s sure had WAY too many so far.

I’m glad Colquitt is healthy again. Every little bit helps.

And now….a little tip I’d like to offer up:
If you keep your posts to less than 500,000 words then a lot more people are likely to read it all the way to the end instead of skipping it entirely. (yes I exaggerated….just a little)

You may be right about Dustin Colquitt, only time will tell. At mimimum tho, he is certainly not in Lechler’s class as a punter. The Raiders whup the Chiefs like a step-child on this one…

heh heh heh

Yes I have an identity crisis.

I’m jealous of Rin basically because he’s able to write so eloquently and persuasively whereas I am illiterate and a total boob.

I loved Herm but since Rin does too I must act as if I didn’t like Herm. Forgive me I beg of you.

Clark Hunt: Because he lost 14 game last season and let the team down by not keeping them in shape.

Reporter: Has there every been a Coach with the Chiefs that has had this poor of a season before?

Clark Hunt: Never

Reporter: So are you saying that Herm Edwards lost more games in one season than any other coach in Chiefs history?

Clark Hunt: Yes

Reporter: But Herm was a nice Guy and all the players loved him.

Clark Hunt: Sorry.. nice guy dont make good NFL coachs. I bet I can fine a golf coach off the street that can win more games than Herm did.

Colquitt is the best punter in the league right now so long as he’s healthy. Returners have a horrible time just trying to cleanly catch his punts much less return them. Hope he’s healthy this year, we really need him.

Notice how he never denies it?

Because he can’t. Prove it, Whitlock Tin Tin. You can’t. Because its the truth.

And coming up, a post that claims to be me that is not. Goodnight.

As with all comparisons though one must look at the big picture encompasses every/all aspects… stat alone be imminent as well passe with each new seasons wane afore the next new.

As with the game itself too (variously,) aspects are different today than were they yester.

One thing that the typical fan will grasp onto is just ‘stats’ – while an indicator, not sacrosanct.

That MLB’r Barry Bonds needed 837 ‘more’ at bats to merely tie Babe Ruth at 714 home runs, speaks to the fallacy of ‘more’ equating best or better – in and of itself; that said Same be mosT often cited And mosT convenient measure.

If we do that then Emmitt Smith must be the best runner ever because he has ‘more’ rushing yards than any other… Rin wouldn’t place him in even the top 5, for various reasons.

Brett Favre has the most TD passes…he’s not in my top 5 as a QB & as befits the ‘more’ argument has also thrown ‘more’ INTS than any player ever.

The best pass rusher ever isn’t even a part of the discussion based on stats – David ‘Deacon’ Jones (nor is his near peer, Rich Jackson.)

Rule changes and non-consistent stat attribution are among the culprits; advancements in training, technique and medicinal assists (PEDs) are among the rationale regards punting too.

Shy having a punter every undertake their knack under ideal & exactingly similar circumstances – which is impossible – we’ve not an exact science so much as an opine nee an art form – eye of the beholder the final arbiter, apologies to stats.

Here are select punters and their gross averages, career followed by best season -

*GUY 42.4 / 45.3
#LECHLER 46.8 / 49.1
*WILSON 43.0 / 45.5
*BAUGH 45.1 / 51.4
*SCARPITTO 43.8 / 45.2
*LARY 44.3 / 48.9
#STARK 43.4 / 45.9
#ROBY 43.3 / 45.7
#LANDETA 43.3 / 44.8
#FEAGLES 41.6 / 44.3

Five random guys from yesteryear*, five of more recent vintage#.

So who was best? Lechler? Baugh? Neither?

What of KC’s Jerrel Wilson, who led the league in punting four times? As such, Jerrel holds the NFL record according to the KC Chiefs media guide yet they are WRONG – Sammy Baugh led the league FIVE times.

Still, Jerrel made the Pro Bowl only 3 times and a Ray Guy led the NFL only three times…yet he’s considered the best by and made 7 Pro Bowls.

Lechler has made the Pro Bowl four times and has led the league in punting NFL times.

Baugh (who also played QB and DB) made the Pro Bowl 6 times.

Lary made the Pro Bowl 9 times…yet usually goes unmentioned in great punter discussions.

Scarpitto led the league one year and made one Pro Bowl – that he played in high altitude DEN leaves him out of most discussions.

All the other punters too have their adherents… so we arrive at consensus, none.

And what of ‘net’ punting average: the stat that minus return yards/touchbacks etc., measures the overall success of a punter?

Detailed research of such aspects as punt return yards, tds returned against punter, fair catches as well other aspects, sheds more light punting. Always however, what is not factored on the face of it: quality ‘team’ coverage, punt protection, opposition to include caliber of returner faced, etc. So the plot thickens.

In the final analysis and on the face of it (‘it’ being preference / ranking of punters) the ‘eyes’ have it – as in the beholders thereof.

What if the ‘yesteryear’ punters had the benefits the modern era has given players, in terms of the aforementioned training, technique, and medicinal assists football as other sports?

And yet, the best of yesteryear is still as good or better than todays’ “bigger, stronger, faster” players.

Sammy Baugh’s 1940 51.5 punting average leaves a Lechler’s best of 49.1 in 2007 in the dust.

As Rin has said afore “bigger, stronger & faster” players today are no better – or even as good as yeteryears same, in many cases.

Too, a Lechler hasn’t played as many years as the other ‘greats’, and as such his leg will start to tell the tale of his decline starting about ‘now’ – he will finish his career as did the others, on his ‘last leg’ as it were – if he continues on as they did.

So always a myriad of factors is in play – for my $, heart and eyes this fan, Jerrel Wilson remains the best…ever.

Followed by Baugh, Lary, Guy and then (as of now) a Lechler. Dustin Colquitt? He has the talent to be mentioned among the best – if his performance can match the modern day player media ‘overhype’.

Jerrell ‘Thunderfoot’ Wilson was the best ever- a notch ahead of formers Yale Lary, Sammy Baugh and the completely overhyped Ray Guy.

‘check’ will find out this annum what the Chiefs discovered last: “any 22″ does not cut it…this at OL, DL or punter.

Memo to the golf coach: learn it…live it.

We all knew he was hurt last year, and now that hes back, he can continue to give the field position edge that maybe…2 or 3 other punters in the NFL can give on a consistant basis.

Excellent Coffin Corner Punter.

Thanks for all of the updates. I was wondering if there has been any word on Savage and what you think his chances are. He was new to the KR job last year and still showed some flashes. Will he be on the team opening day?

Thanks!