Camp Rankings Week #1 … Monday Cup O’Chiefs

I’d put Sheffield in that 2nd core group I think.

Is it just me or do the Chiefs need a backup quarterback. If Cassell is out for say 4-6 weeks is Tyler Palko really going to lead the Chiefs? Ricky Stanzi? Chiefs should get a name guy to hold a clipboard and attend meetings until #7 inevitably goes down. I’m thinking David Carr. Surely somebody else can come up with a better name.

I couldn’t agree more, Big Al. The back-up quarterback position is the weakest link. I have no faith in either Palko or Stanzi. Where is the next Damon Huard – a safe if unspectacular veteran to slot in when needed.

BOB; I ONCE AGAIN WILL SAY YOU ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST. THIS EXERCISE PROVES IT. I AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT 100%. ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY TERRANCE COPPER AND VERAN TUCKER BOTH HAVE ALOT OF TALENT.

I wouldn’t question this either. I would say that Mims will likely be a pratice squad guy perhaps along w/ the OT from SC (Lewis)…

They put Mims up on the practice squad they can kiss him good bye, he’ll be grabbed before the announcement dries. Better find a way to keep him.

Great post. I sse Barry Richardson and Tyson Jackson as 2 starters from last season that are running our of time to display consistency at their positions. I think Dorsey is improving every year, and has started to adjust to the 3-4. Either Powe or Torribo need to be part of the rotation, with more playing time as the season progresses. Kelly Gregg, I feel, was an excellant choice to fill that short term role, but the other NT’s need to be able to gradually play a bigger role. But, in thelong run, Cassel is the key, in todays QB driven league, and despite being one of his biggest supporters, he needs to display an ability to play well against the elite defenses he will face this season, and under pressure. I think this season will determine which direction this team is actually going. A pivitol season.

I hope and pray they keep Jeremy Horne, he is lightning fast and makes great catch after great catch….the last time they had a player in this position his name was Horn also, without the “e” at the end, the Saints ended up with one of their best receivers ever while we continued to search for wideouts!!!

One more comment on David Mims. When will the label small school, raw, needs time, etc be left outside training. Pick any drafted rookie or UDFA and they all need time to pick up the NFL schemes and it really doesn’t matter where you came from, it’s what you do now, in camp and David Mims is knocking guys on their asses. I’m not a coach but is that not what lineman are paid to do? David Mims is a steal for the Chiefs. Don’t believe me, cut him and see how fast he’s grabbed.

We really need Tyson Jackson to step up into the Class A group. I don’t think he’s run out of time yet. The third year is always critical, if a player is going to reach his potential. We are thin at true 3-4 D ends. I wish we could have signed Ty Warren to improve our depth and push Tyson.

Nice to see that camp is now competition rather than finding an able body to plug into a gaping hole esp. “WR – Crowded field hurts his chances”.

Bob,
Since you have been to all the practices and you have disclosed that most of the practices revealed a less than stellar sampling of each individual. I think you are on the mark, let’s say with a 85% accuracy rate. My only switch would be Casey W. in group A and Andy S. in group B.
The WR and LB group I am sure are the most difficult to evaluate. (mostly because there are so many in camp) It would be interesting in 4 weeks to see how you did. My money is on you. Anything over 85% will put you in my “Pro Detecting Talent Club”.
Go Chiefs.

IYO, is Micah Johnson gonna be given a chance? Do you think he has some thumper skills inside and is he picking things up quickly?

Thanks

What has Jon Asamoah done to deserve, “Continues to be star of ’10 draft” label?

I agree that this guy has a lot of upside, but apart from speculation and feedback from the coaches what has this guy shown in game play to be called this.

There were more picks in the ’10 draft that contributed on the field last year.

Jeremy Urban is a guy who has stepped it up in practice I see him being the slot receiver until Baldwin gets back to practice.

I disagree Chiefslovinlineman, Mims is the definition of raw, yes all rookies need help but Mims didnt even have an offensive line coach, he is so much more raw than the average rookie coming in. If every team in the NFL knows who Mims is then they also know he wont be able to contribute for at least 3 years! I cant see a team putting him on their roster for 3 years, cause if he goes up against a starting DE this year, that will be an automatic sack. He just doesnt have the footwork down, the mental part down. Plain and simple he isnt ready. I am going to bet he will be safe on the pracice squad and if he isnt then another team will just have to wait on him for a few years until he can even step onto the field and most teams dont do that.

This is a bad year for any college free agent, just no time to show off skills but that is the same for all NFL teams, maybe Pioli can grab someone he would have liked to have when season starts.

As for individuals, until the regular season starts who knows, an injury could disrupt the house of cards. T. Jackson either steps up this year or he will not be here next.

Barry Richardson not a whipping boy of this Chiefs fan!
All this guy did in his first full season of starting RT was help lead an offensive ground game in the NFL, only committ 9 penalities (2 holding) and allow only 5 sacks all in 16 games. Plus, he comes in at 6-6, 310lbs. So yea, Let’s just ship him off to another team and not let him grow into the position here, cause that’s not what the Chiefs are doing, trying to develop young talent from within…

Dear Bob,
I have always enjoyed the indepth nature of your analysis as well as the personal stories you’ve presented about the players on the team.
From all I have read, the practices have been little more than snapshots into the psyche of the team. Much will be determined in the next two weeks.
In looking at the Chiefs they have had a tendency of poaching other team practice players or cuts in September. For example, Tyler Thigpen, Jackie Battle, Leonard Pope, O’Callahan, Wallace Gilberry, Anthony Torbino, Andy Studenbaker, Chris Chambers, Kevin Curtis . Most of those players have been successful additions to the Chiefs-especially Pope, Gilberry and Studebaker.
This makes roster predictions a very difficult task indeed. One of my concerns is the gulf between the starters and our depth. For example;
QB[Cassell-capable starter, but do we have a capable backup or do we need a veteran QB
RB- Jones, McClain, Jones and McCluster-
Are Battle, Cox, Bannon a small or a large gulf? Should we look to poach a young RB who’s cut?
TE-Pope and Moeaki- solid
If we have injuries, can O’Connell, Gantt or Cody have the ability to be dependable-either as a blocker or receiver
OL-I like our starters-O callaghan, Harris and Hudson all seem to be big upgrades over previous years.
Can we keep Lewis or Mims on the practice squad?
WR-The top three should be excellent- a significant improvement over the last few years.
??Urban-Is he strong enough to be a solid #4
Copper-Is he exceptional enough as a special team standout to overcome his weakness as a receiver?
Does Tucker, Williams or Horne talented enouch to warrent a roster spot?

It seems to me that there is a large separation between the starters and the reserves. Is my analysis substantive? What positons do you think the coaches may be looking to improve?

Hey, David Mims, after just a week-in-a-half has made huge strides and is past raw, maybe medium rare. A steak that juicy can’t be left on the plate long. Like all the other doubters he will prove people wrong.

I got 7 WR making the team–Baldwin, Bowe, Breaston, Urban, Tucker, Cooper, and Horne. 8 OL–Albert, Lilja, Weigmann, Asamoah, Richards, Mims, Hudson, Harris. 5 RBs-Charles, Thomas, McCluster, McClain, Battle. 2 TEs Moeaki Pope and the 3 QBs-Cassel, Pakio, Stanzi.
7 DL– Dorsey, Kelly, jackson, Gilberry, Powe, Bailey, and Miller.
8 LBs–Studebaker, Houston, Belcher, Johnson, Sheffield, Siler, Greenwood, Hali
10 DB–Carr, Flowers, Lewis, Berry, Arenas, Daniels, Washington, Brown, McGraw, Langsford. 3 ST-Gammon, Succop, Colquitt.

Cooper and Piscitelli will battle for the last roster spot. I picked 7 WR over 3 TEs.

I like Joejoe list here. 2TE may be a risk. With a Run first offense, we need the 2 TE sets– we were near last in short yardage off. Mims I agree also is worth the last cut. PS is a sure jump to some other team. HOGS ARE HARD TO FIND!