“What’s the worst thing that can happen to a quarterback? He loses his confidence.”

- Terry Bradshaw -

Best College Quarterbacks: Part 2

Some Chiefs fans have already decided the team needs to grab a quarterback in the 2009 NFL Draft.

If you are one of those fans, then you should know something about the potential selections. Over three days, we’ll provide you with a look at the top 25 quarterbacks that could be available in April ‘09.

That’s could be available because this list includes not only the top senior quarterbacks, but junior quarterbacks who would all be eligible for selection. The juniors would have to declare for the draft. Plus, there are three sophomore quarterbacks thrown in as well.

The NFL draft rules say a player must be three years removed from high school graduation to be eligible to apply for early entrance into the annual selection meeting. Thus, any sophomore who took a redshirt season would be three years removed and thus eligible. It’s very rare for any sophomores to leave early, especially quarterbacks. But just to cover all the bases, we’ve added three of them to the mix.

We had our group of the first eight on Wednesday. Here’s the second eight and on Friday we will finish up with the final nine. They are listed in alphabetical order.

JOSH FREEMAN/Kansas State        JR    6-6, 248                                   1/13/1988

  G GS Att. Comp. Pct. Yards Avg./Att. TDs INTs
2008

5

5

143

90

62.9

1,275

8.9

12

2

Career

28

25

912

546

59.9

6,408

7.0

36

28

Freeman’s story is well known around Kansas City, where he was one of the best schoolboy football prospects of the last decade. At Grandview High School he threw for 7,175 yards and 78 TD passes. Freeman narrowed his college choices to K-State, Kansas, Nebraska and Oregon, choosing the Wildcats. He became a starter as a freshman in ‘06, opening the final eight games of K-State’s season. He’s got the size that NFL teams like and the arm strength. While he’s not a dual threat quarterback on the run, he has shown the ability to get himself out of trouble with his feet. Coming into this season, most scouts pegged him as a first-round talent for the 2010 Draft with continued improvement.

MAX HALL/Brigham Young*        JR    6-1, 200                               10/? /1985

  G GS Att. Comp. Pct. Yards Avg./Att. TDs INTs
2008

5

5

181

130

71.8

1,587

8.7

17

4

Career

18

18

677

428

63.2

5,435

8.0

43

16

*-spent freshman-redshirt season at Arizona State

Hall graduated from Mountain View High School in Mesa, AZ with the class of 2004. He threw for 4,789 yards and 61 TDs while leading his team to a 27-1 record and two state title appearances. Hall was recruited by Miami, Northwestern, Arizona State, Brigham Young and Washington State. He picked Arizona State and spent the ‘04 season there as a redshirt freshman. He spent ‘05 on a Mormon Church mission and then transferred to Brigham Young where he sat out the ‘06 season. When he finally got on the field last year, he threw for 3,848 yards. He’s smart, athletic and has a good arm, but lacks the size NFL teams seek. Hall is much like previous BYU quarterbacks; very good in the system, very smart, mature, but lacking top level physical tools.

CULLEN HARPER/Clemson        SR    6-4, 220                               10/1/1985

  G GS Att. Comp. Pct. Yards Avg./Att. TDs INTs
2008

5

5

126

84

66.7

944

7.5

3

5

Career

23

13

581

381

65.6

4,105

7.1

32

11

Coming into the ‘08 season, Harper was probably the highest rated QB on most NFL team’s pre-season lists. But the Tigers have struggled through the early part of this season and so has Harper, hurting his draft stock. He came out of Sequoyah High School in Canton, Georgia. As a senior, he played only two games and missed the rest of the season due to injury. He was still recruited heavily and narrowed his considerations to Clemson, Auburn, Georgia Tech and South Carolina. In ‘04 he took a redshirt season. In ‘05, he played in one game and took five snaps. The next year he was Clemson’s backup quarterback, playing behind starter Will Proctor. Harper became the starter in the ‘07 season. He’s got good size, a strong arm and he’s very intelligent; he graduated last May and is taking graduate school classes this fall. He’ll likely be one of the first QBs drafted in 2009, but his placement could improve if he has a strong finish to his season.

GRAHAM HARRELL/Texas Tech        SR    6-2, 205                        5/22/1985

  G GS Att. Comp. Pct. Yards Avg./Att. TDs INTs
2008

5

5

237

158

66.7

2,027

8.6

18

3

Career

37

31

1621

1119

69.0

12,709

7.8

107

28

Coming out of Ennis High School in Ennis, Texas, Harrell held numerous state high school records including career passing yardage (12,532 yards) and career TD passes with 167. He played for his father Sam Harrell. He was recruited heavily by Georgia, North Carolina State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Purdue and Kansas State. Now in his third season running Mike Leach’s spread offense in Lubbock, Harrell shatters passing records on a regular basis. There’s no question this young man can throw the football, as he now has over 25,000 passing yards in high school and college and 274 TD passes. NFL scouts are concerned that he’s a system QB, who will have trouble making the adjustment to taking the snap under center and reading defenses while backpedaling. Harrell’s big senior season so far has him climbing some scouts rankings.

TIM HILLER/Western Michigan        JR    6-5, 228                          12/13/1986

  G GS Att. Comp. Pct. Yards Avg./Att. TDs INTs
2008

6

6

220

151

68.6

1,701

7.7

19

4

Career

25

23

791

516

65.2

6,056

7.7

59

22

Hiller was highly recruited coming out of Orrville High School in Orrville, Ohio, where he threw for 7,222 yards and graduated with a 4.0 GPA. He picked Western Michigan over Louisville, Pitt and Maryland. He made five starts as a freshman in ‘05, but sat out the ‘06 schedule with torn knee ligaments that he suffered at the end of the previous season. He came back in the ‘07 season and firmly grasped the starting job and has held it ever since. He’s got the size that NFL teams are looking for at the position, as well as the intelligence and arm strength. Hiller is not very mobile. His strong season to date has him climbing the charts in NFL draft rooms. He started the season as a late-round consideration.    

CHASE HOLBROOK/New Mexico State*    SR    6-5, 245

  G GS Att. Comp. Pct. Yards Avg./Att. TDs INTs
2008

4

4

132

88

66.7

1,123

8.5

10

5

Career

38

28

1242

866

69.7

9,608

7.7

70

32

*-spent freshman season at Southeastern Louisiana

Coming out of L.D. Bell High School in Hurst, Texas, Holbrook was a wishbone quarterback who threw for just 1,215 yards as a prep passer. He was recruited by TCU, Tulsa and Missouri although they wanted him to play tight end. The only school that recruited him as a quarterback was Southeast Louisiana and head coach Hal Mumme, one of the pioneers in the spread offense. Holbrook played in 10 games as a true freshman in ‘04. When Mumme left SELA for New Mexico State, Holbrook followed and sat out the ‘05 season. He became the Aggies starting QB in ‘06 and has been there ever since, racking up big numbers, if not a lot of victories. New Mexico State is 10-18 in his 28 starts. Holbrook has the size the NFL is looking for and he’s a good athlete, although he’s not produced much as a runner. Right now he’s considered a late-round prospect.

COLIN KAEPERNICK/Nevada        SO-R    6-6, 215                          11/3/1987

  G GS Att. Comp. Pct. Yards Avg./Att. TDs INTs
2008

5

5

122

80

65.6

957

7.8

6

2

Career

14

13

369

213

57.7

3,132

8.5

25

5

At Pitnam High School in Turlock, California, Kaepernick was an all-state selection in football, basketball and baseball. As a senior, he threw for 1,954 yards, 25 TDs and six INTs. It was as a pitcher with top-end speed that seemed to be his future, but he decided he wanted to play college football and accepted a scholarship from Nevada. He sat out the ‘06 in a redshirt season and became the Wolves starter as an injury replacement five games into the ‘07 season. By the end of the season, Kaepernick won the WAC freshman player of the year. Good size, good arm, top end athletic ability, mobile and smart. This guy has the whole package, and two more seasons to play on the college level.

CASE KEENUM/Houston        SO-R    6-2, 212                               2/17/1988

  G GS Att. Comp. Pct. Yards Avg./Att. TDs INTs
2008

5

5

261

177

67.8

1,927

7.4

19

5

Career

17

11

534

364

68.2

4,186

7.8

33

15

Keenum comes out of Wylie, Texas where he threw for 6,783 yards and 48 TD passes. He led this team to a 31-11 record in his starts, and also ran for 2,000 yards and scored 41 rushing touchdowns. He was recruited by Baylor, North Texans and UTEP, but selected the Cougars program where he spent the’ 06 season as a redshirt. He played in all 13 games in the ‘07 season, with seven starts and won Conference USA Freshman of the Year honors. A smart, savy quarterback who can make plays with both his arm and his legs. He’s very accurate and doesn’t make many mistakes for a young QB. It would be folly for him to come out in the ‘09 Draft, as another year, possibly two at Houston will only increase his stock.

(We’ll look at nine more quarterbacks to finish out our top 25, from Central Michigan’s Dan Lefevour through John Parker Wilson at Alabama.)


12 Responses to “Best College Quarterbacks: Part 2”

  • October 9, 2008  - tmessina says:

    Not about QBs, sorry do not care the chiefs do not do QB at all.

    Many media commenting on ESPN/NFL reporter Smith who said he has inside sources that management is divided at Arrowhead, Group 1 (oh lets id as a name, say carl) and Group 2 (maybe use herm). Both agree a rebuild was overdue and both feel the LJ deal was a bad one, not the idea or player but the deal. “carl” wants rebuild to include selected veterans and try to win during the rebuild. “herm” wants to gut the entire program, turn into an expansion team for next 2 to 4 years, lose consistantly, and then hopefully win.

    The NFL is big business. The only way for a real business to be successful is to have ONE plan and everyone works that direction. This just goes to show how far the chiefs have strayed. Two plans equals failure, it cannot succeed.

    I do not know how this will play out. But for me and me alone, I will not settle for 2 to 4 YEARS of consistant losing. That is asking to much. That is why I doubt the herm group is not the way to go. If they win, we need to get rid of Tony, Waters, Surtain, and if anybody will take him LJ.

    I remain not totally satisfied with the situation.


  • October 9, 2008  - anon says:

    tmessina,

    I’m not sure there is any merit to what you say, and frankly I’m not sure exactly what you were saying completely…but if I was Herm and was concerned about my own job security, I would be pushing for a 2-4 year excuse of a plan too. Not his fault if we keep losing..everyone is young…that would buy him a few more years.

    The reality is, that’s completely ridiculous that he wouldn’t want any vets at all. Ridiculous… see what Green Bay is doing, see what Atlanta is doing, see what freakin’ Miami is doing. They are building, getting better, and getting younger. There is no reason to completely gut your entire roster and turn the thing into an expansion team…again, just ridiculous.


  • October 9, 2008  - JohnNdallas says:

    I understand what Tmess was saying, in fact he must have been typing this at the same time I was posting on “Chiefs Update 10/9″ Very much the same thing that Waters and Shields were saying earlier this evening about the situation at 1 Arrowhead Dr.


  • October 9, 2008  - findthedr says:

    is it just me or is Bob showing a pattern. Most of the Qbs shown in this section are big guys. I know that is the vogue right now because they should have less passes batted down, and are big enough to take hits, but the best qbs over NFL history have actually been 6′2”-6′3”.

    I am convinced, the most important factors in evaluating 1st day qbs are completion percentage and length of playing time. Brodie Croyle’s college career completion percentage is almost exactly the same as his career nfl completion percentage…56%

    Thats not good enough, and there is really no indication that will improve even if he gets the protection he needs.

    Now go back through and look at the QBs who have had alot of playing time and who’s career completion percentage is over 60%…that is who we should consider drafting.


  • October 9, 2008  - Colby says:

    I know it’s all really early in the process and I may feel differently later but I like the sound of Chase Holbrook as a mid to late round developmental guy. Seems like a big guy with lots of athletic talent who may get overlooked on draft day. Freeman is an exciting local guy. Something tells me that Harrell may be more than just a system QB.


  • October 9, 2008  - anon says:

    I would agree with the completion % thing. I think accuracy is underrated. Jaworski (who I think really understands NFL QBs) is ALWAYS talking about this. The thing is, if it was that easy….draft the guys who have high comp % and who played a lot…you wouldn’t see all the busts you see in first rd QBs. I’m sure all these factors have been looked at in an attempt to predict who will be successful…just not that easy, unfortunately.


  • October 9, 2008  - tmessina says:

    Anon Are you saying that Green Bay one of the youngest teams and they built by going young and losing all their veterans and losing for several seasons, ever hear of a guy named Farve? Miami rebuilt in one REPEAT one season and that matches the chiefs way of rebuilding? Atlanta is rebuilding around a 1st round QB, and the chiefs are rebuilding around a 3rd unhealthy no a 34year old no an exViking with legs no some no name cast off? I hope you are not matching all that to the chiefs way of rebuilding.

    Sorry my point was not clear. The chiefs cannot rebuild with two different plan. It cannot be done that way. I do not want to see 2 to 4 years of rebuilding with only the management of the chiefs “hoping” to get their act together and if they fail to bad for us.


  • October 9, 2008  - findthedr says:

    the completion percentage has its flaws if the Qb is always throwing short high percentage passes (such as to the RBs which are almost like handoffs). Thus completion percentage and playing time should be the most important factors but not the only factors.

    tmessina,
    all those teams you spoke of have rebuilt by various means, but none have done it by rastically going young like the chiefs have…and yes i know gb is the same team age.


  • October 9, 2008  - findthedr says:

    I just saw this site using IE, and noticed the advertisments for the 1st time.

    Thank goodness I’m using firefox with adblock plus. ;)


  • October 10, 2008  - Rich says:

    It seems to me that the top priority for evaluating young QBs is how quickly they can read defenses and deliver the ball to the right spot quickly? I don’t want a guy that can throw it through a wall or 70 yards downfield if he’s weak on those top attributes.

    Too many times, we’ve seen scouts and team officials, including the Chiefs, falling in love with arm strength while winking at the top skills required.

    It’s like coaches getting all wet over 40 times for WRs and overlooking the hands of stone that go with that 4.3 burner. Maybe Bob can address how to properly test and evaluate the two most important skill sets for QBs somewhere down the line?

    I’d be most interested in reading about that.


  • October 10, 2008  - Lloyd says:

    They need to draft 2 or 3 Qbs,and pray a lot.


  • October 11, 2008  - Ian says:

    I could see drafting Matthew Stafford Or Sam Bradford. and than some where in the 6th or 7th picking up a guy like CHASE HOLBROOK……Look Brodie will not get cut but he will most likely lose his job making him a pretty decent number 2. and that mean Huard or most likely Thigpen will be gone? but i say why not both? Huard is old and can’t move granted he is not bad but go with the youth movement and set your self up like Green Bay. They drafted two Qb’s and they already had a decent one starting. Competition is good and frankly we need it the most at the QB spot


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