An Offense In Disarray … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs

It very well may have been the perfect play to symbolize the Chiefs offense in the month of November.

Sunday night at Arrowhead Stadium, it was the fourth quarter and for one of the few times that evening where the Chiefs offense had moved the ball into Pittsburgh territory and faced a 3rd-and-2 play at the Steelers 22-yard line. They trailed by seven points and there was eight minutes left in the game.

The offense had moved down the field mixing the run and pass, as QB Tyler Palko went four for four throwing the ball and they picked up four first downs.

But in this situation, a running play was called. Veteran TE Anthony Becht lined up as an H-back and on the play went in motion to his left across the back of the offensive line. RB Jackie Battle took the handoff from Palko and went to his left. Becht was running to get in front of him like a pulling guard to lead a sweep around the left side.

That’s when Battle and Becht collided. They couldn’t get out of each other’s way. Battle was knocked off balance and he stumbled forward and he at least got back to the line of scrimmage, leaving the Chiefs short of the first down. The Chiefs ended up kicking a field goal on 4th-down and trailed 13-9. That was the final score.

“It just looked like it had the chance to be a real big play,” said head coach Todd Haley. “So that’s disappointing.”

And that was the picture of what has been happening with the Chiefs offense over the last month. It can’t all be laid at the feet of Palko, because he only started two of those four games. Things were out of whack when Matt Cassel handled the duties as well.

In the month of November the Chiefs had four games, and 45 offensive possessions. Only one of those led to a touchdown. Six others brought field goals to the scoreboard. That’s 25 points in 45 possessions.

One-third of those (15) were three plays or fewer. Almost half (22) of those possessions reached opponent’s territory, but only six got into the scoring zone and three brought points.

It’s a picture of inconsistency that has been created by penalties (12 of 21 flags in the month), giveaways (7), sacks (13) and mistakes (too numerous to count.) That’s led to no victories, one touchdown and a negative influence on the team’s chances of making the playoffs.

Here’s the ugly picture on the 45 possessions:

Chiefs Offensive Possessions in the Last 4 Games

Miami Dolphins

# Began

Plays

Yds

Last

Result

1 KC 22

14

53

MIA 25

FG

2 KC 6

3

-1

KC 5

Punt

3 KC 17

9

29

KC 46

Punt

4 KC 14

6

13

KC 27

Punt

5 KC 9

8

70

MIA 45

End Half

6 MIA 45

6

6

MIA 34

Downs

7 KC 18

3

8

KC 26

Punt

8 KC 20

3

-1

KC 19

Punt

9 KC 20

9

77

MIA 3

Downs

10 KC 20

11

77

MIA 5

Downs

11 MIA 49

7

13

MIA 36

Downs

Denver Broncos

#

Began

Plays

Yds

Last

Result

1

KC 20

6

0

KC 20

Punt

2

KC 19

6

32

DEN 49

Punt

3

KC 7

3

-1

KC 6

Punt

4

KC 27

5

17

KC 44

Punt

5

KC 29

5

16

KC 45

Punt

6

KC 7

1

3

KC 7

Half

7

KC 35

8

65

DEN 1

TD

8

KC 27

3

6

KC 33

Punt

9

KC 10

7

36

KC 46

Punt

10

KC 13

7

41

DEN 46

Downs

11

KC 15

4

3

KC 23

Downs

12

KC 31

8

55

DEN 14

FG

New England

# Began

Plays

Yds

Last

Result

1 KC 20

3

9

KC 29

Punt

2 KC 20

7

40

NE 40

Punt

3 KC 47

9

45

NE 8

FG

4 KC 27

6

28

NE 45

Punt

5 NE 44

4

1

NE 43

Punt

6 KC 20

6

46

NE 34

Interception
7 KC 25

1

2

KC 25

End of half

8 KC 13

3

3

KC 16

Punt

9 KC 24

9

35

NE 41

Interception

10 KC 18

10

69

NE 13

Interception

11 NE 48

8

10

NE 38

Downs

12 KC 26

2

22

KC 29

End of Game

Pittsburgh

#

Began

Plays

Yds

Last

Result

1

KC 20

11

57

PIT 23

FG

2

KC 20

5

18

KC 39

Fumble

3

KC 8

1

0

KC 8

Interception

4

KC 20

1

0

KC 20

Interception

5

KC 18

3

9

KC 27

Punt

6

KC 31

9

38

PIT 31

FG

7

KC 39

3

1

KC 40

Punt

8

KC 20

9

20

KC 40

Punt

9

KC 8

13

70

PIT 22

FG

10

KC 30

11

33

PIT 37

Interception

It all paints a rather painful offensive picture for Todd Haley and his team. After 11 games, the Chiefs rank No. 27 of 32 teams in total offensive yards. They are 29th in points scored per game, 27th in first downs.

“We have to stop giving the ball away,” said WR Steve Breaston. “That’s where it starts. Then we have to start scoring some points. Our defense played a great game (against Pittsburgh) and when you hold that team to 13 points, you should be able to score 14 points.”

Should, but they can’t. Until they do, the four-game losing streak figures to grow.


29 Responses to “An Offense In Disarray … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs”

  • November 29, 2011  - bhive01 says:

    I agree Bob. It looks like a lot of the pieces are there, but until they come together we won’t see anyone in Red/Gold doing a TD dance.

    Take away a couple of the INTs this last game and get Becht out of the way to convert the 3rd down and it’s a different game, maybe even a W instead of an L. That then gives us a little confidence back and a better playoff picture.

    It’s all “what-ifs” though. I don’t want to give up on the idea that we make the playoffs in some weird, twisted way, but I’m starting to pay more attention to the 2012 draft as of this week.


  • November 29, 2011  - RW says:

    I’m still trying to understand who in the hell let the backup QB position go to Palko. WHO let that happen? The personnel decisions the last few years have been questionable at best, abysmal at worst and they’re placed at the feet of Pioli.


  • November 29, 2011  - Chuck says:

    I completely agree with RW from above. Some of these guys on the field leave alot to be desired. Becht, Palko, Gaither (his penalty was costly), and Bowe’s crappy effort to catch that last pass was completely pathetic. I love Bowe dearly but his lack of effort on that play was really horrible.


  • November 29, 2011  - Kent says:

    What bothers me is that we have several people that are getting paid a lot of money and they don’t know where to go, where to line up. I coached Jr. football and they always knew what to do and where to go. The plays are always late and then players don’t know where to go. The Chiefs do not play with passion either.


  • November 29, 2011  - Nathan says:

    I hate to say it but it looks like they miss Charlie Weis.


  • November 29, 2011  - ED J says:

    Kent did you watch the game if you didn’t think Chiefs played with any passion last Sunday or against Pats Monday night maybe we’re watching differenet game. As for Weis he ain’t going make Palko better QB. Offense struggles lays at feet as RW says of Pioli. Know way we should have Richardson out there at right tackle. The best we can come up with is Gaither who isn’t apparently fully healthy. Then Becht, Pope, and O’Connell best support we have at back up tight end. I mean you couldn’t find someone from Canadian league or UFL. Backup Qb situation I mean come on you couldn’t bring in Troy Smith or Trent Edwards. Seriously get someone who’s had some success in the NFL vs a guy who’s been cut everywhere he’s played. I don’t see how anyone can win with this roster. In 2012 I better see Chiefs spend more money on better quality players to feel the wholes.


  • November 29, 2011  - Tim says:

    Its the people executing it, not the design of the play…for the most part. The problem with this collective group think on the Offense is that there’s no accountability. RW is right. The roster decisions regarding the capabilities of some of the players currently there is very questionable. There’s no doubt about Haley being able to get the best out of what’s there. He’s demonstrated that. I directly question the decision of all Safeties (other than rookies) on the roster, Palko, not getting a better TE to go w/ Moeaki & Pope & RT – for starters. The question is: Did Haley want to keep them or did he want other guys & was told “no”. If Haley wanted to keep many of them, then I question his talent evaluation skills. If he wanted different guys, then its on Pioli. I wish some member of the press would put that question to them. Whether they answer it or not is another story, but it needs to be asked.


  • November 29, 2011  - Mike says:

    Add one more name to the list of those who blame much of the Chiefs’ problems on Scott Pioli. I truly think the Chiefs have bought into Haley’s way of doing things, but there’s no way any team can win without quality backups, as Bob pointed out yesterday. IMHO, it’s Pioli, not Haley, who needs to go. Pioli looked like a draft guru only because Bill Bellyache made the final decisions for the Pats, and he’s a far better judge of personnel than Pioli.


  • November 29, 2011  - johnfromfairfax says:

    I’ve also questioned some of our personnel decisions and am not ready to give a repeat of executive of the year award to Pioli. However, I think it’s premature to call for his removal and start again. Unless they already have somebody in mind removing Pioli probably means the new GM would want to pick his own coach and have his own ideas of how to build a team. A new coach would have his own philosophy, ideas of what schemes to run and way of doing things to accomplish his goals. In other words it requires almost starting over again and that entails a lengthier process to get to where we want to be. I do think Haley shows promise as a coach and should be given the benefit of the doubt at least for now. This year has been tough because of all the injuries and how the games has played out. when the season is done we probably will have played the toughest schedule in the league and even the teams we figured as wins have surprised not just us but everybody (see Buffalo and Detroit). I fault us for not being able to be more competitive when injuries hit. Not having a suitable backup at QB is proving to be a killer. Keep in mind though that this is the same group that won the division against expectations a year ago and I agree with those that feel like our weaknesses can be shored up enough to make us very competitive with another good draft and judicious signings in free agency. One indicator of talent is not repeating mistakes again and again. Sometimes that entails patience to allow mistakes to play out and see how they are addressed.


  • November 29, 2011  - Steve says:

    Bob, Lots of people are calling for anybody but Palko to start the next game. What are your thoughts? I don’t see much choice unless Orton demonstrates an ability to pick up a great deal of the offense quickly. Yesterday Haley seemed to say that Palko was out there because he was the only one who could master the hurry-up offense and the other tweaks the coaching staff thought they needed in order to be competitive. Watching Palko frequently move backs and receivers into the correct position before a snap gives credence to that idea. Do you have an idea whether his interceptions were caused by the lack of arm strength/accuracy or a brain cramp where he slings the ball where he imagines the receiver should be?


  • November 29, 2011  - ED J says:

    We aint going change Gm. Pioli needs to start doing things his way. Stop trying recreate Patriot Way and do his own thing. I read book War Room which gives behind scene look at Chiefs, Falcons, and Pats over last 2 yrs. Impression I got from book is Pioli trying recreate Pats here and Dimtroff tried do his own thing in Atlanta. Its obvious who method is working. If Scott wants to have his.own success he needs to just do whats best for Chiefs and not what wouldve worked in New England


  • November 29, 2011  - Tim says:

    ED J…agree with that. You can’t re-create something like that. You can borrow elements, but too many variables at play to believe you can do that. Every place is different & adjustments have to be made. The only thing that would cause a person to keep chasing the re-creation is ego. The public affirmation that would give, if successful. If not, the that person would blame too many other things & say they tried.


  • November 29, 2011  - napahank says:

    You can somewhat “re-create” (actually it is more like copy cat) another teams way of running an organization; however, it takes years to get to that point. It also takes the same GM and Head Coach building that “way” and not replacing either every 3-4 years. It still may not work in the end but starting over every few years gets you no-where.


  • November 29, 2011  - el cid says:

    But where is the line drawn. Do you ride your GM until you lose your fan base and all the NFL perks for having a team on the rise or among the elites? How often do you change HCs? Can Pioli and/or Haley change their thinking, adapt or do they stubbornly ride a dieing horse?

    I have no answers or even suggestions, but what we have in todays Chiefs is not working for most fans or against the rest of the league. We have a sometimes defense, a barely adequate special teams, and an offense, few like. We could use some light for the end of our tunnel. The next thing I can think of is the next college draft, anyone?


  • November 29, 2011  - ED J says:

    Napahank i disagree you cant recreate Bill Bellichick and Tom Brady. Pioli needs to take elements of what worked their not try to duplicate entire process. This totally different situation here than what worked in New England. You didnt see Haley coming here tryimg make us this juggernaut of passing attack like what he had in Az. He recognized he ddnt hv oline Qb or receivers at that time to do so. So he changed his philosphy and ran ball more with Charles. Pioli needs to follow suit. All i have seen since he been here is Pats knock offs. Ocallahan Cassel Vrabel so on am


  • November 29, 2011  - ED J says:

    Pioli needs to in.2012 try to continue to create his own style. He did that little bit in last yr draft by going after guys with little baggage but was high in talent. He needs continue trend by being more innovative and proactive in.free agency.


  • November 29, 2011  - el cid says:

    If Pioli can change his spots, ED, more power to him. It is a hard thing to do. Don’t you think even NE did not know what they drafted in Brady, wasn’t he a 6th rounder? From the #1 pick to Brady’s selection how many busts were there?

    But in his 4th year’sdraft, maybe he is comfortable enough to go his own way and skip influences from the past.


  • November 29, 2011  - ED J says:

    I hope.so el cid i hope so


  • November 29, 2011  - RW says:

    I also read the “War Room” book on the Pattie Way and what I took from it was a special moment in time, a confluence where what had to happen did in surreal fashion of sorts. Not wanting this post to morph into a book report but to me, Pioli was characterized as someone less than impressive which is what he’s been as the Chief’s GM. It’s all subjective of course but if you want to see what I mean, read it for yourself.

    The bottom line is results. For your job performance, for mine, for anyone’s and especially, in this instance, Pioli. He’s come up far short of expectation but perhaps consistent with his abilities?

    At any rate, evaluation of all things mattering to the Chiefs have to be pored over and decided at the end of the season for the young Hunt. If Jr. Hunt is true to his stated position as not being as patient as his old man, then many heads need to roll including his wunderkind from NE.

    If not, it’s another walk down that lonely broken dreams boulevard called ‘Next Year’.


  • November 29, 2011  - el cid says:

    RW, I just do not know. I always thought with Lamar it was more about playing and controlling the game, winning was nice but not all that important. Our one superbowl win was nice but not as important as the AFL joining the NFL. But that is just me.

    Hunt jr, who is he? does he have a burning desire or is just being there enough? He is an unknown, really. He told us what a hire Pioli was but to me Pioli is just a guy, totally committed but just not anything special. Pioli hired Haley, not his first choice, and he seem not to be HC material, as in longevity. But what do I know.

    After 3 years it seem to not be improving the product, maybe it was to much for Pioli and Haley. An older more experienced guy might have veen about to make more out of it all. Something is wrong with this bunch, no answers here.


  • November 29, 2011  - Johnfromwichita says:

    We keep thinking and talking like fans. Pro-football is not like college football; it’s a business. Ever heard of a college team with a “team president”? The little magazine passed out on game day, SNAP, refers to Clark as Chairman and CEO. Mark Donovan was moved up this year from being the COO to preisdent. Guess that makes Pioli a general manager and Haley a shift supervisor. The whole bottom line is making money. Anywhere they can cut coroners and make/save money they will. Hence we are watching the results of not enough talent and no depth. No one’s being fired as long as they are making money. $27 to park? Really.


  • November 29, 2011  - el cid says:

    There is nothing wrong with that John. If it is not entertaining enough, there will be changes. Perhaps this season will the wakeup for Clark Hunt, all is not well. It is a billion dollar business, you do not throw it away being cheap, do you?

    Hopefully this post will not be “awaiting moderation” like my last, Bob?


  • November 29, 2011  - Johnfromwichita says:

    el cid, you are absoulty right. Problem is Sunday night’s game was very intertaining. Hell, it was fun. We were right there until the last fourty seconds. Against the Steelers. I was proud of the defense and the atomsphere was electric. Win or (probably) lose, the rest of the games I’ll buy four more season tickets next year. Cheap ass CEO wins again. I am a stupid fan and know it. Sorry.


  • November 29, 2011  - ED J says:

    Bottom line guys is We’re missing the #1 thing that it takes to be successful year and year out organization QB. I think we have good owner. He’s willing to hire big names Pioli and pay him big money to get him. I truly think this guy wants to succeed in his father footsteps. I think Pioli is good GM has he made some mistakes yes and are they magnified when you’re losing yes. I think Haley is good head coach he’s developed alot of guys who went from guys with potential to guys that contribute and living up to the potential.

    I think if Pioli can land franchise QB then we can see Chiefs compete. He thought Cassel would be the next Brady it hasn’t worked out. Mainly because he’s not as talented as Brady and its different system, players, and environment. Once again he needs to stray away from Patriot Way build his own legacy here. Starting with drafting a franchise Qb. IMO we need to trade up in draft and get RG3, Landry Jones, or Barkley if it doesn’t look like any of those guys are going to fall to us. I think we have the management and coaching here to be successful we’re missing the main ingredient an elite Qb.

    If you look at what Dimitroff accomplished in Atlanta. He didnt look to Bellichick to trade for Hoyer or any of Patriots backups to build around in Atlanta. He went off the Patriot Way and drafted Matt Ryan with 4th pick in 2008 draft. He took chance on first yr head coach who like Haley has made his share of mistakes but its being hid by the fact he has an good QB that keeps team competitive week in and week out. I think its time Pioli take lessons from his close friend Thomas and learn to do things his way. So far everytime he went against Patriot way its been successful. Like drafting safety in top 5 pick. Or drafting guys with suspect character issues Baldwin, Houston, Powe and Bailey. I know guys its too early to crown those guys success but I like what I see in them this season which gives me hope for future.

    So in IMO its time he make same decision at Qb. Only thing that would change my mind in taking a QB in 1st rd next yr would be if Orton absolutely plays out of his mind last 5 games and we end up winning 4 out of 5 games. And he’s throwing for 300yards and 3-4 touchdowns a game. Then I would just take the left tackle and bring him and Stanzi back as #1 and #2 QB trade Cassel for 3rd or 4th pick. But many questions will be answered in next 5 weeks.


  • November 29, 2011  - cychief24 says:

    So Edj- you want Pioli to “feel the wholes” ???
    Sounds like a personal problem.
    Oh and you seen to have some doubt about Matt Cassel. Any chance you could go into great detail about your feelings for our 2010 Pro Bowl AFC West Champion QB? I’m not sure we really know where you stand.
    If your prediction on Orton is correct and he throws for 3-4 TD’s and 300 yards going 4-1 the rest of the season behind our pathetic O-line… KC won’t be able to afford him. He’ll make more than Brady if other NFL teams see Orton can throw TDs with 2 pass rushers hanging on him every play ;)


  • November 29, 2011  - ED J says:

    Ok like Richardson was 2010 afc west champion right tackle. You keep throwing that around like it validates you as a good player in this league. Derek Anderson made a pro bowl and where is he now????? Once again we won AFC west because Charles led #1 rushing attack in the league our pass offense ranked in bottom of the league. Seriously I could have led us to AFC west championship with running back running like Charles did last yr.


  • November 29, 2011  - ED J says:

    Secondly only reason Cassel went to pro bowl is because of dumb rule by Goddell in playing pro bowl before Super Bowl Peyton would’ve went. So please Matt Cassel little brother aka cychief keep it REAL.


  • November 29, 2011  - cychief24 says:

    “feel the wholes” Edj….”feel the wholes”

    I do agree with you though, If Charles, Moeaki, Berry and Cassel were healthy we would lead the AFC West.


  • November 30, 2011  - el cid says:

    Disagree, not one of those injuried fixes a thing on the OL or DL. If all were healthy, we might have been better…..but…..with Haley’s “unusual” pre season, no management support for filling holes apparent last season, we would still be behind oakland, they got more talent, especially adding Palmer. You can dream but the current roster really drops off after the top 10 guys. It still takes 22 starters and a K and P, just not there as of yet.




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