A Trio of Personnel Mistakes … Weekend Cup O’Chiefs

Romeo Crennel said it would be”collaboration” with GM Scott Pioli in putting together his coaching staff for the coming season. This week, Pioli said that the job is Crennel’s and he’ll provide any help the coach asks for, but that the head coach needs to choose his staff.

If true, that’s good news all the way around, because Pioli should not be interviewing assistant coaches. He should be out there turning over every rock on the NFL landscape to find players.

Understand this – the player personnel business in the NFL is seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, 365 days. It never stops … never, ever, ever. If it does, that’s when teams find themselves unable to not only field a talented starting lineup, but to have enough depth to see a team through a rash of injuries that are so much a part of the game.

Pioli likes to talk about how much he and the personnel department work. Effort is assumed; this is the NFL and there are no slackers around the league. Those that might lean in that direction don’t have their jobs very long because there’s always a dozen people who will outwork the lazy guy.

Still, how many hours a chore takes remains unimportant if that time is not used efficiently and leads to a favorable resolution.

I’m not sure how much time the personnel department put into building the roster last year. As the season played out, we saw they had not taken into account depth at three positions – quarterback, running back and tight end. They couldn’t have spent any time on the matter; if they had the same names that started the season on the roster would not have been there at the end.

The Chiefs got lulled into thinking that Matt Cassel, Jamaal Charles and Tony Moeaki were bulletproof. Apparently a group of players named Tyler Palko, Ricky Stanzi, Jackie Battle, Thomas Jones, Leonard Pope and Jake O’Connell were just fine. That’s who ended up on the opening-day roster at those positions. They went to camp with Cody Slate and Charlie Gantt as tight ends and Tervaris Johnson at running back.

With the exception of Stanzi and possibly Battle, it’s hard to imagine any of those names being part of the 2012 Chiefs roster.

Don’t take this as second guessing. Questions about quarterback, running back and tight end depth were raised in St. Joseph with Todd Haley in his daily media sessions. Despite the fact the GM was working behind the scenes to get rid of him, Haley wouldn’t throw Pioli under the bus. His standard reply was, “yes, I’m comfortable. We’ll see.”

We did see. It was a disaster of their making. The enemy has been identified and the finger of blame points squarely at Pioli, Haley and anybody else involved in these decisions.


Any GM who doesn’t think his quarterback is but one play away from being on the injured-reserve list is an idiot. With the Colts, the seemingly bulletproof Bill Polian ended up losing his job. One reason was the lack of alternatives for the injured Peyton Manning.

Polian produced Kurtis Painter, Dan Orlovsky and Kerry Collins – it proved a disaster. Nobody would have expected a normal Colts season of 14-2, but 2-14? See you later Bill.

How in good conscience could the Chiefs go into the 2011 season believing the duo of Palko and Stanzi was appropriate as backups for Cassel? There were no NFL starts between them. Palko had played only a handful of plays in five seasons banging around the outer edge of the league. Stanzi might be able to play, but as a rookie without an off-season program, he wasn’t going to be a factor in 2011.

Where was a quarterback who had played in an NFL game before? Listen, there’s no question the pickings would have been slim in that group, but there were quarterbacks that could have provided a bigger landing pad for the offense if Cassel was knocked out.


The Chiefs were building an offense on the running game, and the skills of Charles, one of the most explosive offensive players in the league. But this is the same Jamaal Charles that Haley would spoon feed touches to every year to keep him available for 16 games and off the injury report.

They needed depth at the position. But rather than going out and finding a talented young running back in the draft or free agency, they stuck with the same guys from the ’10 depth chart – an aging quickly Thomas Jones, an unproven Jackie Battle and a moving from the wide receiver position Dexter McCluster.

Nowhere in that group was a guy who could handle 20 touches a game or even the 17 runs and catches that Charles averaged per game in the 2010 season.

The front office had to know this. They knew Jones was operating on the last legs of a great career. Battle was a try-hard guy that had not gotten many opportunities to be a running back. McCluster was a physical speck of a back that could not produce with a heavy workload.

Every year there are a half-dozen to a dozen backs that could out of the college ranks and have enough skills to make contributions in the NFL. If an offense is going to be based on the running game, then a back should be taken every year in the draft. They don’t have to be early picks. Last year, both Roy Helu and Kendall Hunter went in the fourth round. Both were productive for Washington and San Francisco.


In his rookie season, Moeaki caught 47 passes in 15 games for 556 yards. The rest of the team’s tight ends – Pope and O’Connell – combined for 13 catches for 107 yards and two TDs.

That’s 60 catches for 663 yards out of the tight end position in 2010. With Moeaki missing all 16 games because of his knee injury, the Chiefs tight ends responded in the 2011 season with 34 catches for 325 yards. Essentially, 50 percent of the production in the Chiefs offense for the position simply disappeared.

The big personnel move to the Moeaki injury was to sign a 34-year old, 11-year journeyman Anthony Becht. So weak was the competition at the position that by the end of the season, Becht was the starting tight end.

That Moeaki was knocked out by an injury should not have come as some sort of surprise to the Chiefs. His entire career at Iowa was dotted with nagging injuries that cost him playing time.

Let’s remember that conditions around the league last year in August when the 32 clubs went to training camp. There were extra roster spots available, and the largest class of veteran free agents in NFL history was there waiting to be selected. For the Chiefs, there was no problem with the salary cap and team Chairman Clark Hunt says there was no problem with money that Pioli could have spent whatever he felt he needed to improve the team.

Obviously, Pioli has a problem evaluating his own team. It’s one thing to pick out valuable talents from the draft pool or free agency list. It’s another to recognize on your own roster where there are holes after the starter.

That has to be corrected and better that Pioli handle those duties than getting in Crennel’s way as he picks his coaching staff.

Understand that there is plenty of work to go around getting the Chiefs back on track.

41 Responses to “A Trio of Personnel Mistakes … Weekend Cup O’Chiefs”

  • January 13, 2012  - johnfromfairfax says:

    If you add in the offensive line you have the nucleus of a failed season that probably didn’t have to be. The division was certainly ripe for the picking but not enough was done to address inadequacies. Perhaps the changes with the new collective bargaining agreement regarding salaries will force the organization to be more competitive in talent acquisition but it’s a shame if it has to come from that.

  • January 13, 2012  - James says:

    This team has more holes in it than swiss cheese. You were kind not to mention the lack of depth at S, ILB and the OL.

  • January 13, 2012  - bhive01 says:

    Comparitively speaking, how bad were our holes compared to other teams? Say the 8-8 Super Eagles for example. They went out and bought the best they could and yet ended up in a similar place as us.

    Without the injuries to Charles, I wonder if Haley would still be coach and we’d all be smiling right now about our playoff run…

  • January 13, 2012  - Daniel Jacobs says:

    we were general managed out of the playoffs. Granted a weak division, but if Waters had stayed or if we had a legit back up qb we could have commandeered an extra win or two and gotten in. Easily.

  • January 13, 2012  - Chuck says:

    BOB; Very good article and as usual its RIGHT ON. I still say one of the many problems this team has had thru out the years is the Unwillingness to spend money in free agency. The Chiefs last year I believe stayed around 27 million under the cap. Until that “mentality” changes its going to be the same ole problem year after year. No you cannot buy your way into the playoffs but that doesn’t stop teams like the Eagles, Cowboys, and Raiders from atleast “trying”. I love owners who really want to WIN and not just give the fans LIP SERVICE like what we have to put up with year after year.

  • January 13, 2012  - RW says:

    Hooray! Couldn’t agree more with this analysis. Serviceable NFL type RBs can and should be targeted in the middle rounds of the draft.

    Prototypical TEs are becoming a needed commodity & as Bob points out, Moeaki fills the bill but has an injury history so a quality upgrade has to be on the shopping list.

    Cassel must have something nasty on Pioli. I mean, at some point the denial has to stop and get real. If Orton is allowed to walk and Stanzi emerges as the primary backup, Pioli’s again spinning the Russian Roulette cylinder.

    Does Pioli get a bonus for keeping the personnel spending under a certain limit? How else to explain the ineptness?

  • January 13, 2012  - el cid says:

    Funny, if we won we accept benladen for HC, or so it seems. Then there is the regular, why should the Chiefs spend money:

    1 there is no one out there
    2 Philly did it and flopped
    3 why shouldn’t Hunt keep his money

    It is almost if we fail that is ok because look at how we are doing it correctly, of course, we are still failing. What fans?

    I expect what we have seen the last 3 years to repeat for one more, as not spending any money for name players. In 2013, we may see the Pioli we thought Hunt hired. Money will have to be spent, Crennel and coaches will have had a year to see what is here and not, Pioli will be starting his 5 year and cannot hide behind “work in progress”. Just got to survive 2012.

  • January 13, 2012  - Tenand6 says:

    Apple had an advertising line that reflected the company’s culture: “Think different.”

    Pioli doesn’t need to work harder, he needs to work smarter. He needs to think different.

    Saving Clark’s money, according to Pioli himself, was a driving force to his work day (War Room). I don’t understand that at all. Properly investing Clark’s money in a well-balanced roster is what should motivate Pioli. Saving money is a nice thing, but that’s how accountants think. Let someone else obsess on that. Pioli is supposed to be a top personnel guy. That’s supposed to be his strength.

    Another thoughtful column. We have to look at ourselves as critically as we do the competition if we hope to improve.

  • January 13, 2012  - Justin says:


    You are right on. Pioli is the REMAINING problem here. Pick a coach you can’t work with then undercut him the the whole season, send him with a thin and less than fully talented roster. Save your boss’ money to the point of ridicule. All the while doing everything in secrecy and the “patriot way.”

    Well, no thanks. In 3 years after both RAC and Pioli are fired we can do it all again.

  • January 13, 2012  - Canada Brad says:

    I really hope we don’t end up having to do a full (GM on down) restart in 3 years. I believe we have a very talented nucleus (unless they start walking this year in free agency). If the Chiefs can’t build on this group to make a contender, then I fear they couldn’t build a contender out of anything.

    Sadly, if this is the case, then it makes you wonder, what’s the point of even hoping for the unattainable success of a playoff run.

  • January 13, 2012  - david says:

    Good article Bob but I dont think all blame falls with Pioli. Haley loved Pope and any ex cardinal. Granted it is Pioli job to sign these guys but Haley had input. I think the final straw was when Haley would not bench Palko. Haley was just a stubborn egomanic that was not even a good OC let alone a HC. Haley would not play some of the guys drafted or signed unless it was a last resort. Remember year 1 of Haley he did not even start playing Charles until end of year. Charles was 3rd string for a while. I was disappointed Crennel didnt give Stanzi a chance to play and see what they have in him once he was named HC. Also disappointed Powe didnt get to play. Part of the HC job is to develop the players and who has Haley developed? I think Haley was a big mistake and lets see what they do this year with Haley gone. I dont think Pioli became dumb overnight. I also hope that Crennel hires a DC and OC and lets them coach and he manages.

  • January 13, 2012  - Blake says:

    What is the point of this story? All Chiefs fans know that the Chiefs dont have depth…

    Bob we are going into the offseason, we want to know about coaches being hired or fired by the Chiefs, names they are looking at. The draft, who is coming out in the draft, upcoming free agents. We all already knew that the Chiefs didn’t have depth, move on who cares! I want to forget this past season. You will jump at any chance given to attack Scott Pioli wont you?

    Yes this team didn’t have depth but you cant blame Pioli for everything, he has stated time and time again that he is going to build through the draft and try not to use free agency which is the right thing to do. He has had 3 drafts, the first was terrible with only Jackson and Succup, the second was great, this years is still undecided and the lockout hurt those players chances of getting on the field. Hey Bob, maybe if Carl Peterson did a better job building a roster then KC wouldn’t be in this spot, aside from the 2008 draft and some first round picks KC doesn’t have ANYTHING! It is going to take time to build up a roster and Pioli has not had nearly enough time. Yes they should spend more in free agency but that is not Scott Pioli’s way.

  • January 13, 2012  - Chris says:

    I agree with Blake. This roster was the worst in the league when Pioli took over. It takes time to build it the right way. Bob comes off really vindictive here and lately. This team was still one win away from a playoff birth in a season when there were some disastrous losses.

  • January 13, 2012  - Johnfromwichita says:

    I, for one, really, truly want to see Pioli succeed in building a consistent winner. This year was just a disaster movie. From lock-out, to injuries, to two blocked field goals that kept us out the play-offs. I would feel better if only I was sure that the plan was to get better and not simply make money for Jr.

  • January 13, 2012  - Tim says:

    Right on the money Bob. Its the refrain that’s been expressed by many of us on this site continually from the beginning – at these same positions & additionally, the O-line. I personally was critical of what I refered to as “pets” of Haley: Pope, Jones & McGraw. One might put Palko in that category too. Amazing how these particular people synch up with the position groups referenced. My point is that Haley was certainly partly to blame as well. Pioli was moreso in my opinion because he has much more experience from the personnel side & bigger picture view than Haley did. By allowing this roster situation, when it was clearly able to be addressed, Pioli has dented his own reputation for one of the primary functions of his job – personnel. He should be on a mission to repair that damage to restore his credibility. If he doesn’t make credible attempts this year, we’ll all know HE was much less of a factor in NE than anyone could have guessed.

  • January 13, 2012  - Bill Leifer says:

    Great article and replies. A couple of things not addressed in either is the uncertainty regarding whether the season would even be played. Haley creatively decided to use the shortened offseason getting the people we had, with all the lack of depth, in the best physical shape instead of being football ready. Was that a failure? In retrospect, it was. But even in retrospect, most teams took their most horrible injuries starting around weak 12. We did not. Near the end, other teams had 10-12 guys on the injury report before each game, and we had only a few. Maybe that was why. The spending situation was also changing. There is something to be said for the idea that we should have developed who we had and kept our FA powder dry for the 2012 season. That’s what we did. We are not going to get any idea of Pioli’s real philosophy on FA until this coming draft is over. That money he saved is going to really come in handy, not only with new guys, but in trying to retain Carr, Bowe, McLain, Orton, etc. With a strike looming and little prep time for those we already had, it MIGHT have been extremely intelligent to keep our real agenda and powder dry for this coming season. Even with a much stronger squad, we were facing the hardest schedule in the NFL.

    I am not going to judge Pioli based on last year or the first year, when there was little time to put things together. The second season with him might be hard to interpret, because we had the easiest schedule of them all. But, by God, it is showtime now, isn’t it?

  • January 13, 2012  - johnfromfairfax says:

    I think Bill makes some really good points that haven’t been discussed much. I also have to agree as usual with JFW, not sure if it’s the name or being one of the old dogs, but I very much want Pioli to show his bonafides as a personnel guy and make us a winner again. It’s one thing to talk about it and another to make it happen. It’s time to make it happen. Please show us Scott (and Clark).

  • January 13, 2012  - Canada Brad says:

    It’s worth pointing out that the Patriots are declining. Pioli has been gone now for 3 years. If not for Brady, they may not even have made the playoffs this year.

  • January 13, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    I’m concerned that all the hostility Bob has towards Pioli how will he ever get any access? Criticsm is fine but continual bashing is over the top.

    I was angry at the lack of replacing Richardson and Weigmann while letting Waters go. Angry with no back up QB. Angry when Pioli didn’t even try to replace Moeaki, then Berry, then Charles.

    I think I get it now. As Bob pointed out a while back, the offense hasn’t been the same since Haley benched Cassel for calling too many audibles vs. Tenn. We get whitewashed by a bad raider team and an ok Ravens the next 2 weeks. I thought then Haley was bipolar and he proved it this year. Maybe Pioli saw the same thing and knew he couldn’t (nor can anybody) work with Haley. The way Haley kept talking after each early defeat how he liked his guys and saw something special with them…maybe Haley told Pioli he didn’t want players from outside that hadn’t gone through his stupid boot camp? Heck, when Pioli did get Haley a OT in Gaither, Haley wouldn’t play him. Then he cut him for being offsides to go fix the Chargers O-line. Haley wouldn’t play McClain either when he could have taken some carries after Charles went down.

    I for one was happy to see an adult HC for the first time since Vermeil.

    I choose to believe Romeo and Pioli will work as a team and be successful. I think some of you would feel better if you watched the Press conference.
    We were 2 Orton picks away from going 3-0 and being where the Donkees are now.

  • January 13, 2012  - ED J says:

    Cychief trying take shot at Orton dude stop being silly what about block field goals. Anyways I do i agree Bob spends more time bashing Pioli than he does being a reporter getting inside info. I mean who’s next prospect for OC. Are we going fire special teams coach. I mean how is it guys like Adam Schefter or Chris Mortenson get this stuff and Bob doesn’t and he’s local reporter.

    Now lets anaylize what he broke down. I agree with some not all you’re being one sided Bob. QB position if you’re going to say we should’ve upgrade backup Qb position you can’t throw that out there unless you’re going to offer options. Because that’s your point to begin with is he could’ve done better. If so then who David Garrard he had back injury. Guys Colts picked up wasn’t any better than Palko.

    Now lets go to running back. Which is very weak argument not going to spend alot of time here we were 15th in the league rushing the football. That’s better than half of teams in the NFL. I gurantee if Vikings or Bears lose top rusher week 1 or 2 of season they’re not going to finish top half of the league in rushing. Then there is tight end like QB who else is out there. You going to name positions we should’ve upgraded your argument looks very weak when you don’t present options.

    Now here’s bottom line. Every team has wholes except for 2 or 3 teams in the league. Most teams in the NFL lack depth. Its only teams that have had Gm in place 5 plus years that have this tremendous depth Bob speaks of. Teams like Steelers who for one lack depth or even quality starting corners go see Tebow game. And check out guy that replace Ryan Clark at safety. Or Packers who oline lacks serious depth. Or how about Saints who are very weak at linebacker and lack elite pass rusher. So as you can see even team with depth has wholes on the roster.

    Now that brings me to my point. I for one think Pioli is doing good job with assembling this team. Once he identifies a weakness he addresses it on offseason. We needed more playmakers at receiver after 2010 season he went got Baldwin and Breaston. Which if we had better QB play and OC we could’ve worked around not having tight end with 3 good receiver Bowe,Breaston, and Baldwin. This season we need improve oline no doubt that will be focus of draft and free agency on top of resigning Carr, Bowe,Battle,Mcclain, Orton, and Gilberry. So cut guy some slack. Truth is you can’t waive a magic won and improve a roster overnight. Free agency offers more bust than boom and draft you only get 7picks and they take time to develop. Ask Raiders, Redskins, and last year’s Eagles team how spending money like their is no tommorow has worked out for them.

  • January 14, 2012  - el cid says:

    As for Pioli’s successful way of building, I would say who do the Chiefs look like after 3 years of Pioli building. One of the power houses? GB NO NE PITT, who? More like Denver to me. A defense looking pretty good, Special Teams seem nothing special, Offense can run but struggles with passing and scoring. If you consider Denver or Tex as some sort of icon of what a NFL team should be, I guess Pioli is succeeding. If you want to become one of the powerhouses, not so much.

  • January 14, 2012  - david says:

    I too am unhappy about some of the decisions made and lack of depth but pioli is trying to build a team that will be competitive each and every year not one that falls apart when one or two guys leaves or is injured. You also have to have the right coach for that and Haley was not the right one. He was way to emotionally driven and condesending to the players to get the chiefs to play on a consistent basis. He was more worried about showing players, coaches and management he was smart and in charge. I would bet money one of the reasons the chiefs havent signed some FA was because of Haley. Yea we lack depth, yea we need more good players but we were 1 game from the playoffs and good coaching could of gotten the chiefs there.

  • January 14, 2012  - el cid says:

    “one game away from the playoffs”, how about that. Just what every fan wants to be the underdog and get run in the playoffs.

    How about the KC Chiefs become like the NE or GB teams a power every year. If Pioli is building to be competitive for many years, just when is it going to happen? 2015 or later, the NFL is not geared that way. Sorry but Pioli is building for his owner to be business sound and winning a single game or season is not involved.

    So pretend this stiff is going to bring this “future” some day. I have been waiting about 40 years so far, 10 will not hurt.

  • January 14, 2012  - rufus says:

    good points, good article. But, like the Colts — who was available? Where are the stop gap players Pioli could have signed?

    Therein lies at least part of the problem and it is all over the NFL.

    College is not producing players they used to produce, at least not in quantity of previous decades.

    This NFL game is dumbed down because of many reasons, and if you don’t think the NFL has a hand in what has happened in college football over the past two decades, you really have no idea what a muti billion dollar industry does to insure it’s future revenues.

  • January 14, 2012  - Craig says:

    Good article. We have a payroll 30 million below cap. You get what you pay for most of the time. Nuf said.

  • January 15, 2012  - Michael says:

    I want the Chiefs to be like the Chiefs, and develop their own way. The Pats, Packers, Saints and Steelers are what they are because of Brady, Rogers, Brees and Rothlisberger. But, only a handful of teams have a true franchise QB. One level below that are about 7 or 8 guys who seem to have the tools but have yet to prove it.

    The mid-level is where the vast majority of QB’s reside in the NFL, and everyone is always wanting to land “their guy.” Of course, if you have a chance to land one, I think you have to go for it. But, what to do in the meantime?

    I’d say a team like the 49ers is a good example. Their personnel department has done an excellent job over the last 6 or 7 years acquiring talent through the draft and free agency. They have talent and good depth all over their roster, which has netted them a top defense, an excellent OL, good special teams and an above average group of skill players surrounding their QB-Alex Smith. That’s what you can do in the meantime.

  • January 15, 2012  - Michael says:

    Are we really asking who the Chiefs could have signed at QB who would have left them in better shape than Tyler Palko?

    Donovan McNabb, Marc Bulger (talk out of retiring), Matt Leinert, Matt Moore, Trent Edwards, Bruce Gradkowski, Shaun Hill, Sage Rosenfels, Tyler Thigpen, Derek Anderson, Troy Smith. Moore or Gradkowski would have been my picks.

    How about runningbacks who might have helped? Darren Sproles, Willis McGahee, Ronnie Brown, Tim Hightower, Jason Snelling, Brian Leonard, Danny Ware, Derrick Ward, Cadillac Williams, Jerious Norwood, Tashard Choice, Brandon Jackson, Kevin Smith, Jerome Harrison, Keiland Williams.

    Tightends? Kevin Boss, Zach Miller, Evan Moore, Bo Scaife, Jeremy Shockey, Todd Heap, Scott Chandler, Daniel Fells, John Gilmore, Jusin Pelle, Matt Spaeth.

    Centers? David Baas, Anre Gurode, Jonathan Goodwin, Brian De Le Puente. Offensive Guards? Harvey Dahl, Evan Mathis, Chris Spencer, Jason Spitz, Floyd Womack, BRIAN WATERS. Offensive Tackles? Jamaal Brown, Tyson Clabo, Marc Columbo, Sean Locklear, Max Starks, Adam Terry, Jeremy Trueblood, Ray Willis, JARED GAITHER.

    Spending big dollars on the biggest name free agents may not be the way to go, but you can certainly build depth and plug a few glaring holes with good signings at reasonable cost.

  • January 15, 2012  - Michael says:

    Well, while we’re at it, who are a few who might have helped on defense?

    DL-Cullen Jenkins, Jason Babin, Jusin Baanan, Kenyon Coleman, Aubrayo Franklin, Jimmy Wilkerson, Howard Green, Brandon Mebane, Ryan Mcbean, Shaun Rogers, Ty Warren.

    LB-Mark Anderson, Matt Roth, Tully Banta-Cain, Nick Barnett, Chase Blackburn, Andre Carter, Kevin Burnett, Larry Grant, Travis Laboy, Thomas Howard, Manny Lawson, Paul Posluszny, Kirk Morrison, Ernie Sims, Takeo Spikes.

    DB-Jordan Babineaux, Atari Bigby, Erik Coleman, Dwight Lowry, Brandon Merriweather, Quinten Mikell, Jarrod Page, Brodney Pool, Donte Whitner, Eric Wright, Carlos Rogers, Richard Marshall, Daniel Manning, Jonathan Joseph, Kelvin Hayden, Nate Clements, Leigh Bodden, Namdi Asomugha.

    There were players available in 2011 who could have helped the Chiefs, just as there will be in 2012.

  • January 15, 2012  - el cid says:

    Huge lists, wish I could have said 10% of it. So tired of the mayshines who ohh and ahh about Pioli and always throw out “who could they have signed, no one out there”. Thanks whole lot of names and all we had with the Chiefs was a whole lot of spaces.

  • January 15, 2012  - johnfromfairfax says:

    Thanks for the excellent examples Michael. I’m glad you took the time to compile some of the names that others continuously say were not available that have gone elsewhere and helped others. I agree with el cid. The bottom line here is other than instilling paranoia and an institutional culture of fear and insecurity that’s “just so 7 and 9″ what has Pioli and Junior done to this point?

  • January 15, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    Micheal- Thanks for the effort! Not all those guys were available after the 3 devastating injuries to start the year, but they were at the start of free agency.
    I go back to my point, would Haley had played anybody Pioli could have signed? Haley didn’t play McClain much and never played Gaither.

    Interesting to see the Ravens and 49ers win playoff games this weekend w/o “elite” QB.
    I guess it IS possible to win playoff games with a good solid QB, great running attack, and defense.

  • January 15, 2012  - el cid says:

    cy, did you watch the games?? Hail mary by ravens and Smith with 49ers threw all over the place. Because you are willing to see something that did not happen, does not make it so.

    QBs this weekend had to make throws, not one team had a “let’s run all over the other team and only throw when necessary” approach. No matter what cy said.

    Yes cy it is possible but why make it hard on yourself, add an upper level QB and your running attack can be part not the whole load.

  • January 15, 2012  - el cid says:

    Sorry, tv overload, hail mary was NY Giants at half.

  • January 15, 2012  - napahank says:

    My question regarding the salary cap is this. With the ~$30 million left over and not used in the 2011 season, can any of that be used to extend contracts or resign/sign players from this point on or is that left over capacity gone forever?

  • January 15, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    Drunk posting again el? ;)

  • January 15, 2012  - Bill Leifer says:

    I remember the stories and interviews with Pioli last winter claiming that he would be making a lot of moves and how money was not a problem. But we watched while FA after FA went to other teams, and we got a few third tier guys or past-their-prime players or people who had not passed physicals with other teams. I was frankly puzzled when little of significance happened. There were a couple of guys we released quickly who turned out great for other teams. I have been giving Pioli a lot of benefit of the doubt for a while, and obviously, he is still learning, but I starting to have big doubts. His handling of the relationship with Haley is also very disturbing.

    This is showtime. He’d better show his stuff now or his time should be up. I hope that Clark Hunt is not as “patient” as his Dad, who put up with Steadman and Shaaf until the franchise was almost moribund.

  • January 16, 2012  - iwriter says:

    I heard from 610 that Bill Moss said that he talked with numerous players and coaches from Arizona and they did not like Haley nor did thay want to play with him. Also our own Mike Vrabel said he did not want to play with Haley nor coach with him… So maybe one reason we had difficultly signing free agents is that players did not want to come her. By the way if you were a free agent and wanted to go to the superbowl….and wanted to play with a good quarterback would you choose Cassel to play for or would you rather go to a team that has a good quarterback….? I think those two factors could be why we had a problem signing free agents…

  • January 16, 2012  - el cid says:

    No cy just tired of your pissanty attitude.

  • January 17, 2012  - Jonathan Fortune says:

    Michael you name a lot of players but reaaly going into the season the Chiefs would have been looking at acquring a backup QB, and depth on both lines. The Chiefs attempted to go after Rogers but he decided to sign with the Saints. Gradkowski wanted to go to a place where he could atart. Waters wanted to get out of here after being disrespected by either Haley, Pioli, or both. I would gone after Babin, Lawson, Moore, Starks, and Ward/Choice.

  • January 17, 2012  - Michael says:

    J Fortune, I like your choices, but I would have added Miller or Boss at TE, and guys like Pool, Whitner and Babineaux would have really helped the safety position. They got who I thought was the best OT out there in Gaither-AND THEN LET HIM WALK! After him, I would have gone for Clabo (cuz he’s mean) or Columbo (old, but a very good technician).

  • January 19, 2012  - brainsmasher says:

    Thomas Jones may have lost a step; but he wasn’t the problem. The problem was the O-line and the play calling.

    Maybe they are not using him the right way; but Dexter McCluster seems like a wasted pick to me. He is small and not as fast as a small guy should be to play in the NFL. He is not Darren Sproles fast–not to my eyes. He is supposed to run a 4.4 but he looks more like a 4.55 to me. The league is full of guys who run 4.55 and they are bigger.

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