A Guess On The 53 … Saturday Cup O’Roster

OK, the Chiefs got the jump on me and sliced seven players off the 53-man roster Friday night.

I was all set to give you my prediction on the 53-man roster as it would look early Saturday evening after the NFL deadline.

With seven gone, that means there are 15 more moves that must be made for the Chiefs to reach that league mandated number. There’s also the chance they could go lower, because they’ve already got their eye on somebody who popped up on the waiver wire on Friday. Todd Haley calls it last chance shopping.

I’m not big on mock drafts and I’m just as ambivalent on mock rosters. If I had all the answers, I would be hiding out in some fancy NFL front office, making sure I got all the credit and somebody else took the blame.

So rather than give you my 53, I’m going to give you the next 15 roster moves. Remember, this is opinion. Anybody in the media that says they have inside information is either a.) lying or b.) will soon be shot … you know one of those if I tell you the information, then I have to kill you type of things.

Anyway, here goes and remember please, no wagering:

THE TOTAL ROUND OF CUTS WILL BE:

  1. TE Leroy Banks
  2. WR Rich Gunnell
  3. C/G Lemuel Jeanpierre
  4. G/T Ikechuku Ndukwe
  5. CB Mike Richardson
  6. LB John Russell
  7. G Dan Santucci
  8. NT Garrett Brown
  9. LB Justin Cole
  10. CB Jackie Bates
  11. S DaJuan Morgan
  12. S Donald Washington
  13. FB Mike Cox
  14. WR Verran Tucker
  15. WR Quinten Lawrence
  16. G/T Colin Brown
  17. T Bobby Greenwood
  18. G Darryl Harris (possibly injured reserve)
  19. RB Javarris Williams
  20. CB Travis Daniels
  21. LB David Herron
  22. DL Dion Gales

If there is a 23rd cut needed then it would be LB Cory Greenwood and if there was needed a 24th move off the roster, I say it would be QB Tyler Palko. At No. 25 it would be CB/S Ricky Price.

Now, I can tell you already those last 15 picks won’t happen because there are too many 2009 Chiefs draft choices on that list – Washington, Brown, Lawrence and Williams. There should be another one on the cut list as well in DE Alex Magee. Those five draft choices have shown little or nothing to qualify them as players who will make the 53-man roster.

But I doubt seriously whether Scott Pioli is willing to take such a major hit. Among those five, there really aren’t any so-called developmental guys beyond Magee. There’s no way the Chiefs will cut a third round pick that is just going into his second season.

Among the other names, Morgan and Cox are holdovers from the Herm Edwards regime and they just haven’t been able to make a good fit for themselves in the current system. Daniels and Herron are journeymen type players. Garrett Brown, Bates, Cole, B. Greenwood and WR Verran Tucker are all undrafted rookie free agents coming into the league.

Here’s how the numbers fall with my last cuts based on the three groups:

  • Offense – 3 QBs, 4 RBs, 6 WRs, 3 TEs, 8 OL = 24 players.
  • Defense – 7 DL, 10 LBs, 9 DBs = 26 players.
  • Special Teams – 1 K, 1 P, 1 LS = 3 players.

I think offensive line is one spot where the Chiefs will find somebody on the waiver wire to add to their active roster; I have them light there with eight on the active roster. I think there’s always a chance the go with two quarterbacks, grabbing a third and putting him on the practice squad.

BONUS ROUND – PRACTICE SQUAD

The Chiefs have eight spots on the developmental roster and I doubt they fill all eight over the weekend. I’d say probably six or seven and they’ll save spots for somebody that will be available on the waiver wire:

  1. OL Colin Brown
  2. T Bobby Greenwood
  3. RB Javarris Williams
  4. C/G Lemuel Jeanpierre
  5. NT Garrett Brown
  6. WR Verran Tucker

15 Responses to “A Guess On The 53 … Saturday Cup O’Roster”

  • September 4, 2010  - el cid says:

    Interesting how the ’09 draft is up for cutting. It is all about ego, Pioli’s ego. He blew it, yes nobody can tell about a draft for years, right? But guess what everyone sees these kids are not making the squad better even as depth. Let’s see if building something special in KC is more important than saving Pioli’s public face?

    Page joining so late is not a advantage unless he plays like a mad man for his own football future. Although he is better than many of those listed above for cutting.


  • September 4, 2010  - MarkInTexas says:

    Wish we had picked up Patrick Crayton for a 7th rounder, and sent Jeremy Horne to the Practice Squad instead of Verran Tucker. Oh well, spilled milk.
    Hard to argue with your cuts, Bob. I might keep Dion Gales and release Ricky Price.
    It’ll be interesting to watch the waiver wire for potential upgrades to the back end of the roster. Wide receiver, nose tackle and offensive line positions especially.


  • September 4, 2010  - KC_Guy says:

    Some surprises here in my opinion:

    - You keep Ricky Price over Travis Daniels?
    - Only 8 guys for the OL – including Casey Wiegmann who can only play at C? Guess you are expecting them to pick up someone off the wire.
    - Palko may be shipped to the PS regardless if they pick up some other QB. He didn’t show too much during offseason – and having a southpaw as a backup causes some more irritation for the OL:


  • September 4, 2010  - Steven says:

    I doubt Jeremy Horne would make it to the practice squad, someone would have signed him to an active roster. My guess he is also the reason the Chiefs didn’t trade for Crayton. Just my opinion.

    I hope the Chiefs can find a NT on waviers. Also will be interesting to see what happens to Hartwig in Pitt. I know he mentioned when he resigned with Pitt that it was between them and Kansas City. He played in Kansas didn’t he? If he doesn’t get traded buy this afternoon and Pitt cuts him, I bet the Chiefs sign him and he will be in the starting line up by week 2…if not sooner.


  • September 4, 2010  - Byzkit says:

    I think there’s a good chance that Cory Greenwood will make 53 man roster for his amazing hustle on special teams…


  • September 4, 2010  - Tenand6 says:

    I’m looking for 1-2 trades before the season begins as well as some waiver wire pick ups. Pioli knows he bombed out on his first draft and he needs to do whatever he can to make up for that. His scouts and personnel guys have been in place and they need to justify their reason for being.

    I would love to know the give and take between Pioli and Haley on the final 53. Haley’s M.O. has been he’s a mean guy who likes yelling at his players for no particular reason. I think Haley, at his core, is a softie. For those guys that put out and do everything asked of them (which all employees should do, IMHO), Haley responds to that…..to a fault? Haley forms strong bonds with his guys and I think it is hard for him to cut them. I don’t see Haley as cut throat, I think he really loves his players.

    So, if Pioli finds some people who appear to be more talented/skilled than guys who have worked their tails off for Haley, it would be interesting to know how that struggle worked out.

    DV was that way (I think). Vermeil liked the guys who he knew and that knew DV and his system more than someone from the outside. I could be wrong, but Haley strikes me as the same way. And when it comes to building team chemistry, that’s probably the right way to go about it. Give the benefit of the doubt to who you know best.

    That being said, the Chiefs need to shore up their weaknesses. Here’s hoping to minor upgrades to OL, DL, QB and ILB.


  • September 4, 2010  - MarkInTexas says:

    Steven, good note about Justin Hartwig.


  • September 4, 2010  - johnfromfairfax says:

    I think Steven might be on to something with regard to Horne. I remember another Horne we signed as a developmental player that we let get away just a little too early who turned out to be a very good receiver for a number of years when we had none. One thing stands out when you look at the potential names on the waiver wire. Several are players that were with us last year and some saw significant playing time. That perhaps more than anything we’ve seen in the preseason speaks to the fact we’re upgrading our talent. Now we have to see how we look when we actually start playing meaningful games.


  • September 4, 2010  - RW says:

    A barometer of sorts to measure the talent level on the Chiefs will be to see how many, if any, teams pick up guys they cut today.


  • September 4, 2010  - Niblick says:

    TJ Hzada(I can’t spell his name), is supposed to be cut or traded. I think he is still a good player, who just doesn’t fit under Carroll at Seattle. I don’t know if they need another safety, but perhaps TJ for Page might be a possiblility. He also just might be cut. I think I like him over Urban. I’m not sure if the coaching staff feels that way.


  • September 4, 2010  - Tim says:

    Can’t believe we didn’t trade for Crayton. He’s hands down better than the guy from AZ we’ve got & he’s a better special teams player. I do like Horne – a lot. A bit surprised they let Ndukwe though. Maybe they’ll play Rudy there in a pinch. Clearly they’re satisfied with Barry Richardson & Asamoah as their swing guys with Rudy being ablle to play C & G too.


  • September 4, 2010  - Brandon says:

    C. Greenwood I see staying on somehow. Not sure how exactly, especially if they hold on to everyone that you say they will because of the 2009 draft class.


  • September 4, 2010  - Jonathan says:

    I think Greenwood makes the squad but hopefully the Chiefs can pick up TJ, Hartwig, or possibly get Sam Hurd from Dallas. Possibly, the Chiefs can trade Page for an immediate need but that might be hard since he is coming off an injury and not in shape.


  • September 4, 2010  - Mark says:

    I wonder if Maurice Leggett or Cameron Sheffield are going to be put on PUP to start the season? Hopefully their injuries are not severe enough for those players to go on IR for the season.


  • September 4, 2010  - Michael says:

    I’m hoping Leggett and Sheffield will be on the field next week; they both seem to be doing well. I’m not sure Hartwig has enough left in the tank to bring him onto the roster, or that he would be an upgrade on what they already have. Wiegmann appears to be holding up pretty good still, and Niswanger has improved tremendously year by year. I think there are other, younger, guys that will be out there today.

    I don’t think the Chiefs will cut Magee or Washington, nor do I think they should. Starting their second seasons, though, they do have to show the light is coming on for them this year. J. Williams and Q. Lawrence might land on the PS. Williams looked very good this year, but it’s a crowded backfield with Battle’s emergence. Actually, if they keep 5 backs, I’d rather Williams stay on the active roster with Charles, Jones, Battle and Cox or Castille. But, I don’t know that Williams contributes much to special teams. Lawrence still has speed, and became a good special teamer this year. Picking up Sam Hurd would be ok, as he is a decent receiver and good special team guy. So is Sam Aiken, who the Patriots just let go.

    Watching waivers for DL. Interesting that both Tank Tyler and Junior Siavii are now available. How bizarre would it be if one of them came back and had some success with the Chiefs? Not going to happen, but would be crazy.




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